Greenbelt 2009 update
Greenbelt 2009. See my comments after-the-event here and here and here
This was my programme:
Saturday, 6pm in Hebron. "Feasting and Fasting" . My latest two books were written for Advent and Lent, so I'm full of ideas about what "fasting" means – not just giving up chocolate or going a day without food, but all kinds of other layers of meaning too. My talk is about how pursuing that idea changed my reading of a couple of Bible characters.
Sunday 3 pm I'm leading a conversation – in the style of the Late Review – on the Emerging Church and the Liturgical year – what does the ancient rhythm of the church feasts and holy days have to say to a post-modern church in a post-christian world? Three people who know what they are talking about will be joining me.
Sunday 6pm in Hebron I'm on a panel that will discuss whether you can still have faith even when you have doubts. Guess what I'm going to say…
Sunday 10pm in the Big Top. Along with Ben Edson and various other people I'm leading a vigil for Palestine – prayers for peaceful solutions to a seemingly insoluble problem. Various peopole are joining us who are passionately involved, on the ground, in pursuing peace. It will include snips of information, but it's a vigil, not a talk – prayers, silence, music, symbolic action.
Advance copies of my new book are released specially for Greenbelt.
I'm going to see Beyond's special event on "Light" at Midday 4pm on Saturday – a collaboration with light artist Chris Levine. (BTW, Chris is not a lighting director, but an artist who creates things with light. He's fantastic.) Martin and co. at Beyond are featuring a number of other creative events and installations at Greenbelt – see here for more gen.
It's almost always the case at Greenbelt that I end up doing an extra thing – someone drops out of a panel because they get ill or something and I get drafted in. But whenever I'm not doing things myself I shall be watching Duke Special, hanging out at the performance cafe, the tiny tea tent, the Hub. I love meeting blog readers in real life, so come and say hello




1 Corinthians 1vs 20-27
Until I had experience of the Gift of tongues myself I would have written as Rachel Cooke did. The whole tongues thing may bring confusion . Canon John Gunstone in 1983(ish) spoke so well on this whole subject. The talk is called “An outward sign of an inmost grace”. I got a copy from Anchor Recordings a few weeks ago to try and explain to my 89 yr old mother the whole subject from Anglican perspective.
http://www.anchor-recordings.com/index.html
Sure the “here” was meant to be a link?
Without having any context I’d say there’s certainly nothing wrong with saying the same in other wording and I am also sure God will listen to anyone who is not able to produce proper wording. But I do not quite see why an adult would want to tell him anything that does not mean a thing at all. After all, prayer is meant to be communication?
Is there anything more likely to drive away unbelievers than the sight of grown men and women speaking in tongues?
I only hope and pray that I never convert and become like that.
Hey Maggi. But you have to look into these things. Translated it reads: “Alpha’s OK but you’d be better off reading Maggi Dawn’s new book. Get in there quick and preorder, dilly doodle …”
Some Christians are apparently so far gone in the Holy Spirit that I am pretty sure they not only speak in tongues, they also think in tongues.
Tongues on tele can only mean one thing – total lack of discernment from tose doing it and complete disregard for how stupid it looks to even the least skeptical bystander (ok that’s two things) – plus, it’s just downright wrong and Paul would have had no hesitation is saying so – yabba dabba doo!
Personally I feel that we need to be very cafeful here that er are not deriding people or alienating them due to their experience. I should also say that I have read everyones elses post on this issue and the following is only my opinion.
From the age of 6 to when I left at age 26 (only a mere 39 now) I spent my “church time” in charasmatic (happy clappy to some) churches all of which manifested all of the gifts of the Spirit. But, why did I leave? because they lacked the fundemental gift LOVE.
A very Pauline response, Lisa (i Cor 13:1: If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.)
I’m inclined to agree with Hadge – there may be times and places where “tongues” is appropriate, but not on Telly. There’s a degree of spiritual intimacy that only makes sense in private, just like normal behaviour in the bedroom or bathroom is perfectly acceptable, but it’s private and not appropriate for TV.
Apostle Paul wrote that it was better for the gift of prophecy to be exercised when non Christiansn were present as they were more likely to be convicted by God speaking to them, whereas tongues would mean nothin to them…
On reflection I to am inclined to agree with Hadge, and I totally agree with your post (which also made me laugh out loud).
I have been in a number of churches where it really was like “noisy gongs and clanging cymbals” amd I am not talking about the Worship Team either!
Tongues for tv NO! I am sure there are a number of folk now walking around saying Shecome on ahonda etc.