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		<title>Open Letter to the Archbishops</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will the Church of England accept that to set up structures that implicitly infer that some people are less a child of God than others is just poor theology and a stumbling block to our proclamation of the gospel?...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An open letter from a curate to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York<br />
<a href="http://networkedblogs.com/57Uq7">read the whole letter at Thinking Anglicans</a></p>
<p>here&#8217;s a snip:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;The smoke and mirror strategy of giving jurisdiction by virtue of the Measure, rather than transfer or delegation in effect implies that the Church of England as a whole is ambiguous about the identity and authority of both Bishops who are female and male priests who accept their ministry. This is a dangerous precedent to set and leaves women in ministry vulnerable as they, along with every Christian, continue the battle against the principalities and powers of darkness but without the full support of the Church that recognised and authorised their divine calling to ordained ministry. It is a poor consolation prize to offer consecrated women fuller legal rights with one hand (para 15.1) while continuing to set up structures that call into question their spiritual authority (paragraph 13)&#8230;</p>
<p>Many people on both sides of the debate have struggled with the Act of Synod because they are committed to making it work and will continue to wrestle with whatever General Synod manages to agree upon, because of their love for the communities this Church serves, often despite the toxic legacy of the Act. This is illustrated by the fact that Prayer Vigils will take place around the country, in Ripon, Guildford, Newcastle and Lichfield Cathedrals, during the General Synod debates, genuinely drawing together the diversity of voices to which you refer, but to whom you clearly have not listened&#8230;</p>
<p>When will the Church of England accept that to set up structures that implicitly infer that some people are less a child of God than others is just poor theology and a stumbling block to our proclamation of the gospel?&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Women Bishops: documents published</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 10:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maggi dawn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the Church of England (I&#8217;ll comment when I&#8217;ve read it all)
The Church of England has today published the 142-page report of the Revision Committee that has been considering in detail the draft legislation to enable women to become bishops in the Church of England.  Also published is an amended version of the draft, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr4210.html">From the Church of England</a> (I&#8217;ll comment when I&#8217;ve read it all)</p>
<p>The Church of England has today published the <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr4210.html">142-page report of the Revision Committee</a> that has been considering in detail the draft legislation to enable women to become bishops in the Church of England.  Also published is an <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/documents/4210pdf.pdf">amended version of the draft, eleven clause Measure</a> and associated <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/documents/4210can.doc">draft Amending Canon</a>.</p>
<p>The Committee has met on 16 occasions over the past 12 months and considered 114 submissions from members of the General Synod and a further 183 submissions from others.  After much discussion the Committee rejected proposals aimed at fundamentally changing the approach of the legislation, whether by converting it into the simplest possible draft Measure or by creating more developed arrangements – whether through additional dioceses, a statutorily recognised society or some transfer of jurisdiction – for those unable to receive the ministry of female bishops.</p>
<p>As indicated to the General Synod in <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/about/gensynod/proceedings/feb2010/feb2010.pdf#pagemode=bookmarks&amp;page=3">February 2010</a> (scroll to p6), the draft legislation continues to provide special arrangements for those with conscientious difficulties by way of delegation from the diocesan bishop under a statutory Code of Practice. The legislation has been amended in a number of detailed respects.  Provision for statutory declarations by bishops unable to take part in the consecration of women as bishops or their ordination as priests has been removed as has an obligation on the Archbishops to nominate particular suffragan sees to be occupied by those who do not consecrate or ordain women.</p>
<p>Added to the Measure are new provisions requiring each diocesan bishop to draw up a scheme in his or her diocese that takes account of the national Code of Practice and provides local arrangements for the performance of certain episcopal functions in relation to parishes with conscientious difficulties.  A further new provision allows such parishes to request, when there is a vacancy, that only a male incumbent or priest-in-charge be appointed.</p>
<p>It is expected that much of the July group of sessions of the General Synod in York (9-13 July) will be devoted to debating the Revision Committee’s report and conducting the Revision Stage of the legislation.  This is the moment (equivalent to a parliamentary Report Stage) when all 470 members of the Synod have the opportunity to consider the draft legislation clause by clause and to vote on proposed amendments.  Proposals rejected by the Revision Committee can be debated afresh at the Revision Stage.</p>
<p>Once the Revision Stage has been completed – and provided the Synod does not decide that further work is necessary in Revision Committee – the draft legislation will have to be referred to diocesan synods and cannot come back to the General Synod for final approval unless a majority of diocesan synods approve it.</p>
<p>The earliest that the legislation could achieve final approval in Synod (when two-thirds majorities in each of the Houses of Bishops, Clergy and Laity will be required) is 2012, following which parliamentary approval and the Royal Assent would be needed.  2014 remains the earliest realistic date when the first women might be consecrated as bishops.</p>
<p>Notes</p>
<p>The motion carried by the General Synod in July 2008 was:</p>
<p>‘That this Synod:</p>
<p>(a)  affirm that the wish of its majority is for women to be admitted to the episcopate;</p>
<p>(b)  affirm its view that special arrangements be available, within the existing structures of the Church of England, for those who as a matter of theological conviction will not be able to receive the ministry of women as bishops or priests;</p>
<p>(c)  affirm that these should be contained in a statutory national code of practice to which all concerned would be required to have regard; and</p>
<p>(d)  instruct the legislative drafting group, in consultation with the House of Bishops, to complete its work accordingly, including preparing the  first draft of a code of practice, so that the Business Committee can include first consideration of the draft legislation in the agenda for the February 2009 group of sessions.’</p>
<p>The Legislative Drafting Group on Women in the Episcopate, chaired by the Rt Rev Nigel McCulloch, Bishop of Manchester, published in December 2008 its further report and drafts of a Measure and associated Amending Canon, together with an illustrative draft Code of Practice and an Explanatory Memorandum.</p>
<p>At its February 2009 group of sessions, the General Synod agreed that the draft legislation should be passed to a Revision Committee for detailed scrutiny. The Revision Committee comprised (ex officio) the members of the Steering Committee appointed from the Synod by the Appointments Committee of the Church of England in November 2008 to be in charge of the draft legislation throughout its Synodical stages, together with additional members newly appointed to constitute the majority of the membership of the Revision Committee and was chaired by the Venerable Clive Mansell, Archdeacon of Tonbridge.</p>
<p>The Revision Committee issued press releases on its discussions in October 2009  and in November 2009.</p>
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		<title>Women Bishops and the Revision Committee</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maggi dawn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[MCU has published a paper that welcomes the Revision Committee&#8217;s  change of policy. However, it questions the emphasis on seeking to satisfy the opponents of women bishops while showing  no comparable concern for the majority appalled by the continuing gender discrimination.
The paper argues

that the proposed proliferation of different classes of bishops (women, men [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://modchurchunion.org/resources/mcu/2009-2.htm">MCU has published a paper</a> that welcomes the Revision Committee&#8217;s  <img src="http://modchurchunion.org/image/icon/pdf.gif" alt="PDF" /><a href="http://modchurchunion.org/file/resources/revcom/091114.pdf" target="_blank">change of policy</a>. However, it questions the emphasis on seeking to satisfy the opponents of women bishops while showing  no comparable concern for the majority appalled by the continuing gender discrimination.</p>
<p>The paper argues</p>
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<li>that the proposed proliferation of different classes of bishops (women, men consecrated or not consecrated by women, men who do or do not ordain women, etc) should be resisted;</li>
<li>that church leaders should resist the influence of magical views of the sacraments, treating priests and bishops as if the value of their ministry depended on whether their appointment followed precise rules;</li>
<li>that the &#8216;theology of taint&#8217; &#8211; the idea that a bishop who has once ordained a woman priest is no longer an acceptable bishop &#8211; is not acceptable and no allowance should be made for it;</li>
<li>that resistance to change, while characteristic of many reactionary religious campaigns, is unrealistic since churches do, and need to, make changes;</li>
<li>that the increasing appeal to the individual conscience as though it were a basic unchanging fact, rather than an expression of what the individual currently believes to be true, should be resisted;</li>
<li>and that the current reactionary mood among church leaders is in danger of being made permanent by the proposed Anglican Covenant.</li>
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		<title>Women bishops &#8211; the latest from the revision committee</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maggi dawn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bishop Alan reports:
The latest from the rather dry and technical sounding Revision Committee on women in the Episcopate which met yesterday contains one ecclesiologically significant discovery:
After much discussion, the members of the Committee were unable to identify a basis for specifying particular functions for vesting which commanded sufficient support both from those in favour of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://the%20latest%20from%20the%20rather%20dry%20and%20technical%20sounding%20revision%20committee%20on%20women%20in%20the%20episcopate%20which%20met%20yesterday%20contains%20one%20ecclesiologically%20significant%20discovery:20/">Bishop Alan reports:</a></p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr10509.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight: bold;">latest</span></a> from the rather dry and technical sounding <span style="font-weight: bold;">Revision Committee on women in the Episcopate</span> which met yesterday contains one ecclesiologically significant discovery:</p>
<blockquote style="font-weight: bold;"><p>After much discussion, the members of the Committee were unable to identify a basis for specifying particular functions for vesting which commanded sufficient support both from those in favour of the ordination of women as bishops and those unable to support that development. As a result all of the proposals for vesting particular functions by statute were defeated.</p>
<p>The effect of the Committee’s decision is therefore that such arrangements as are made for those unable to receive the episcopal ministry of women will need to be by way of delegation from the diocesan bishop rather than vesting&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://bpdt.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/latest-press-release-from-revision-committee-on-women-in-the-episcopate/">Bishop David explains&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m not on strike</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went into Church on Saturday afternoon, and was greeted by two clergy colleagues who, with broad grins on their faces, said &#8220;Well, surprised to see you here &#8211; we thought you&#8217;d gone on strike.&#8221;
Apparently the Church Times had reported that I am calling women clergy to &#8220;go on strike&#8221;, but that Christina Rees was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went into Church on Saturday afternoon, and was greeted by two clergy colleagues who, with broad grins on their faces, said &#8220;Well, surprised to see you here &#8211; we thought you&#8217;d gone on strike.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently the Church Times had reported that I am calling women clergy to &#8220;go on strike&#8221;, but that Christina Rees was opposed to my suggestion. Neither of which are true. I still haven&#8217;t got my Church Times, because the posties really were on strike.</p>
<p>I had patiently explained to their reporter last week that there is no &#8220;strike&#8221; &#8211; that the point of the discussion on this blog last week concerned the fact that women should not have to work in an atmosphere where they are regularly subjected to discouragement and questioning as to the validity of their presence in the Church.  I understand completely why changing the culture of an institution is slow and painstaking; I also know that some of those who are not in favour of women in the priesthood are kind and godly people, who express their disagreements with regret. I&#8217;ve met such people. But there are others &#8211; plenty of them &#8211; who vocally and maliciously stand in vestries, and out of the public eye, often in little groups, bullying and denigrating women with viscious remarks. I&#8217;ve met them too, and have sometimes stood in complete shock that they actually allow such things to come out of their mouths.</p>
<p>I do honestly think that to ordain women and then stand by while they are regularly treated like this is a disgrace.</p>
<p>One of the commenters here asked whether a real day of peaceful protest by supporters of women clergy would help the church to see how invaluable their women are (not at all the same thing as going on strike). And I&#8217;m not having an argument with Christina Rees, either &#8211; quite the reverse. She&#8217;s a tower of strength, and a tremendous encouragement to me and to many others.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m enjoying a gentle day today, as far from being on strike, I&#8217;m catching up with myself after Sunday, which normally is an eleven-hour day. Or ten, if you treat the hour I spend hosting breakfast as &#8220;not work&#8221;.</p>
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